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Or I do not know, maybe to Germanists it looks easier. I think what is more interesting is the idea that African modernity may in fact have been shaped in large part by three or maybe at most a handful of such demic events, those that gave rise to the language groups that seem to have swamped the pre-existing linguistic diversity AA, Niger-Congo, and whatever one makes of Nilo-Saharan. Its beyond my talents and/or commitment to read the studies and be certain of the capabilities of individual software programs, or to be sure that their conclusions are always fully supported by their methods. a lot will probably hinge on whether they bother to include Frisian.). fieldwork in areas without internet access yes, I consider Opera with Presto engine a very good browser and it was exactly popular in Africa. Well, most of the land area where AA languages are spoken is rather better suited to pastoralism than to agriculture per se, and there is evidence for pastoralism at Nabta Playa (southern Egypt) by around 7500 BC, so a pastoral expansion doesnt seem like an unreasonable idea a priori. So Eden sank to grief, But they are two different Semitics Via Dmitry Pruss on Facebook, an open-access Cell paper, The genomic history of the Middle East by Mohamed A. Almarri, Marc Haber, Reem A. Lootah, Pille Hallast, Saeed Al Turki, Hilary C. Martin, Yali Xue, and Chris Tyler-Smith: The Middle East region is important to understand human evolution and migrations but is underrepresented in genomic studies. Tucker A. N., and M. A. Bryan. This is very much in the spirit of Ryle, who warned about the ways in which grammar prejudices and constrains our notions of whats what (aka ontology). Constituent ordering is followed by grammatical marking of verbargument relations, around the same time or somewhat before inflectional marking of grammatical agreement. The list was published it in a funny place: an article Niger-Congo langauges in the Great Russian Encyclopedia. Has anybody suggested any? They call it the minimum of cognates and offer another 28 possible cognates. concluded that if all we had was the contemporary varieties, wed know well enough that they were related, but would never be able to work out just how. Ah. in here, there, where and the Greek for at night), and that has been suggested to be the same as the r-branch middle marker. lyudina (Ukrainian) a person I try to stave off senility by letting Duolingo gamify my Spanish learning and its unwaveringly Mexican in its output. With respect to acquisition of morphology, the domain in which languages tend to differ most, children generally acquire the bulk of the inflectional system of their language before they master its derivational morphology. It just so happens that this was just posted, on the Computer-Assisted Language Comparison in Practice blog. I always recommend it for improving ones self-esteem and to people who believe foreign langauges are difficult and wish it were used as the language of international communication exactly because of its system of tenses and irregular verbs. (And am pleased on his behalf ). It occurs to me that Cortzars forms may have been old-fashioned even for his time, as he was born in 1914 and spent most of his adult life in Paris. It would be a change in syntax, not morphology, just as with the ancestral languages of the suffixing Gur versus the prefixing Bantu. However, I realize I have no clear idea what to expect for how body sizes should vary among fish. Maybe strip off a few layers of irony/sarcasm/snark and try again? Quite recently, additional examples of Proto-Sinaitic writing have been discovered near the ancient city of Thebes, at Wadi el-Hol, perhaps dating back to as early as 1900 BC. Note In all likelihood, nominal cases originally existed in Meroitic just as they exist in modern NES languages and Meroitic verbal morphology is still mostly unknown and assumptions in this matter remain highly speculative. He gives only a couple of forms proposed to be cognate with other NES languages. After all, the list was drawn up to work for European languages, For linguists speaking a European language:). Ossetian / (ksalg/ksag), and (kf) for big fish. Interestingly, the consonantal script of Ethiopic had undergone a significant metamorphosis by the fifth century AD, becoming a syllabary of almost 200 CV symbols. This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. A problem with lexicostatistics on a set of languages which are certainly related, but the sound changes are not always clear, is that the question of whether two forms actually match for lexicostastical purposes or not can be far from objective, and I am very dubious of techniques which purport to get round this. I have the clear impression that, from decade to decade, Kloekhorst tries to read ever more into any spelling variation he can find in Hittite. There is little in the way of plausible lexical matches (but there are some: its a bit like the situation with Uralic and Indo-European. Akkadian WS split does not look very useful for classification:(. You can stratify vocabulary by the likelihood of borrowing; moreover, you may be able to distinguish borrowed words from inherited on phonological grounds (this works for English to some extent; the poster child for it is Rotuman.). IAM individuals (7000 years old) showed close genome-wide affinities with the Tarofalt individuals. I think to understand the growth of NS and NC, we have to consider whether there were similar new forces at play earlier than we are aware of. Proto-Sinaitic is one particular form (the earliest by the interpretation of an origin within Egypt) of a more broadly, if meagerly, attested consonantal script called Proto-Canaanite, found at several sites in Syria-Palestine. Most of the names used to indicate this group have remained current: Semito-Hamitic (Benfey 1869: 683; Petrcek 1972), Hamito-Semitic (Hovelacque 1887: 212; Mukarovsky 1966), Erythraic (Reinisch 1873 apud Cohen 1947:12; Tucker 1967), Afroasiatic (Greenberg 1955: 54; Hodge 1968), Lisramic (Hodge 1972), Afro-Asian (Albright-Lambdin 1970), Afrasian (Dolgopoljskij 1973). unhappy part of the world I googled for Ushari Ahmed Mahmoud mentioned by Thelwall, and It seems Sudanese governments love to arrest people named so. (But on Sua, I might want to see also the cited Segerer paper on it.). Interestingly, Greek hedgehog (one of Greek words for hedgehog) seems to be related to Greek pig. Id be truly delighted if someone produced good evidence for the relationship. Of course pez is understood by literate Hispanoamericans. Since when arrival of Ethiopian Semitic from North-East (southern part of Arabian peninsula) became controversial? Serious judgment issues. Militarev is innocent. it seems that salt-water fishing has always been quite a bit more important than fresh-water. A kindly man, and serious Additional grammatical meanings can be added through prefixes and suffixes. I have vivid memories of seeing a fish the size of a grown man unloaded from a tiny fishing canoe on the Niger river at its confluence with the Benue at Lokoja, 260 miles from the sea , Did the Romans do much fishing in the English Channel? Anyway, they became Russian nobility (at the moment a branch of that family with a slightly different family name Politkovskie are more noticeable). Neither looks anything more than what you might find by chance to me. they form dynamic, shifting relationships with one another which have nothing to do with historical phonological changes. who vigorously contended explicitly that going from subgroups-of-subgroups straight to to the top level in comparative work was not only perfectly valid but was in fact the way that the great Indo-Europeanists had worked. Also, if hedgehogs resemble camel bellies, I cant see it myself , I suppose that it might at a pinch be that an original zgempende had got changed to ygempende by analogy with ygemde camel, but it seems improbable on the Kusaal side that an original *zugudir hedgehog would become yugudir under the influence of ygm camel., On the other hand, the -- of Moor ygempende is unexpected: the Kusaal has /u/ not //. Greenbergs model was fully developed in his book The Languages of Africa (1963), in which he reassigned most of Meinhofs additions to Hamitic to other language families, notably Nilo-Saharan. The early Amorite speakers could also subsequently have given rise to several of the different Canaanite groups mentioned in the Tanakh. For example, Yom and Nawdm have always been grouped together, and this seems valid based on shared morphology and distinctive Yom-Nawdm vocabulary (unfortunately though there are very good accessible materials for Nawdm, this is not so for Yom, so I cant be as sure of this as I would like.) But thats no substitute for actual evidence that something really happened.). So some of auch awwal neferayn baythallu biar bayst in the old days two men would buy [a days] fish for ten baysa; ferner in Bahrayn hl dried fsh (HOL-2), der noch REI 94 hle Suppe = (fish) soup dazu anfhrt. Heres a link to an article on ancient rivers and lakes of the green Sahara. preserve noticeable traces of Pre-Semitic and, in Mesopotamia, also of Pre-Sumerian substratum. However, an abecedary found at the Palestinian site of Beth Shemesh, consisting of consonantal cuneiform characters like those in use at Ugarit, shows the same letter order as found in the Old South Arabian script. It is a paper mentioned in this post. Actual experts on Atlantic agree that its three parts are far too diverse for it to form a single Niger-Congo branch: theyd all individually be at the same sort of level as Volta-Congo. But in any case, the rows should be characters and the cognate sets should be states of these characters. I just moved his link here. I am not familliar with such usage in Russian but the old texts that I read did not deal with boars, and the one that did uses vepr for a boar and koni diki for horses wild. Dikobraz , at least in BCSM, is totally opaque dik- might bring up dika (pride) instead of divlj- (wild) but the real issue is obraz is most likely to be interpreted as cheek or else face/reputation, and while it can mean something like form in some cases, no one would understand X-obraz to mean X-like. Obrz (with this stress) is mostly found in modern scientific compounds with connective -o-, with the meaning -oid. Its much less common, but the difficulty of distinguishing borrowing from inheritance is not confined to lexicon. @Hans, the coincidence between [unfamiliar to me] Polish meaning boar and all the boars mentioned above (just Germanic. fiskeri ( fiskrii SD NS 1: 464 ( 1405 ) . Therefore the people who put together the standard trees should check their trees and see where they went wrong. ), (the first 4 lines are by DE but I cant edit the comment and mark them as a quote at the moment:(). As shown by the unfortunate typos, this issue is not necessarily breathtakingly groundbreaking and worthy of Nature. Locative going with middle voice seems odd semantically, though. Russian literature online I wonder if there is an archaic word for fish found somewhere in Korean that represents what was replaced by mulgogi. of, relating to, or denoting a family of languages spoken in southern India and Sri Lanka, or the peoples who speak them. The really striking thing about the paper for me was how overwhelmingly Natufian the ancestry of Arabian Arabs is. The idea that the position of Arabic within Semitic could be definitively settled even in principle by looking at Swadesh 100 lists is ludicrous in itself, but worse yet shows a more or less complete lack of understanding of historical linguistics. BANTU. Bulgarian Judeo-Spanish Texts in Cyrillic. Vasmers etymological dictionary(Russian) Individual fish names that are known are all less stable (and do tend to have some semantic leeway but within reason: wels catfish ~ sturgeon big long fish, ruffe ~ bleak a small fish, asp ~ ide a carpine fish, etc.) For example, in the Polish data (Jarema & Kadzielawa, 1990), we do not see any cases where the -inflected singular imperative form replaces a tensed form, e.g., the past tense, which is inflected for mood, aspect, tense, person, number, and gender (six features). Emmon Bach, Wynn Chao, in Philosophy of Linguistics, 2012. This is an old one corresponding to Ger. apparently, from *- or, judging by the stress, the reverse formation from the adj. The evidence is pretty clear than the idea of Bantu-style noun class systems is more durable over time and linguistic diversity than any particular expression of the idea. Several lower numerals in both Mande and Dogon look definitely related to Volta-Congo, but contrary to the assumptions of Indo-Europeanists and Semiticists, numbers are actually extremely borrowable. If there was a third domestication, African taurine would be sister to the European and Asian clade. (link). A good many Hausaphones (some pretty eminent) have published on Hausa, for example. In my own pet area, Oti-Volta, it is notable that there is a sharp drop in language diversity as you go from East to West, which looks very likely to be connected with the rise and expansion of the Mossi-Dagomba states and their very closely related Western Oti-Volta languages over the past six or seven centuries. As you say, theres new high-quality data coming in a lot these days, as well; this is not the least of the things that makes a fresh look at comparative Oti-Volta work both possible and fruitful, too (though thats a whole lot less challenging than Eastern Sudanic.). (None of the above are rhetorical questions, BTW. Thanks. for a European AA is Semitic and also languages similar to it. (although see [my paper] for alternative placements of [3 taxa]) Blench himself collected some very likely cases of this (from central Nigeria, IIRC.) Thus, from North Africa, wave after wave of Semitic migrations would seem to have set forth. May his pen rest in peace. Not I. In the Guinea zone thats because of sleeping sickness. @Hans, the coincidence between [unfamiliar to me] Polish meaning boar and all the boars mentioned above (just Germanic. Along those lines, Claude Rilly seems to be doing some good work in settling the question of whether Meroitic was Afroasiatic or Nilo-Saharan (for sake of argument. strong support for Arabic within Central Semitic from the multistate analysis, but no support from the binary analysis). And sorry for writing that much about pigs, but I have many questions now: 1) why there are THAT many synonims for a thorn? (Science)), Although our analysis provided inconsistent support for Arabic as a lineage of Central Semitic (i.e. We are speaking about scales of millenia. It is my theory that the primary reason for the dedication of large areas to pasture in various periods is the military advantage of cavalry. (DE). Combine that with the apparent prevalence of Natufian Y-haplotypes among Berbers and Somalis, and Im starting to suspect that Militarev got it right after all when he identified Afroasiatic with Natufian, least moves notwithstanding. On a slightly different tack, I wonder to what extent the interpretation of Hittite texts actually was helped by IE comparison. However, this can still shoot you in the foot: French /-s/ is not cognate to English /-s/ (although it has probably massively reinforced it) even though counting characters would suggest otherwise. It seems, India is polyichthious, but I know too little about the region. And the author who studied in Kiev still worked in Petersburg. >> Maybe Ill become a specialist in Eastern Sudanic! Semitic history is full of diffusion.. autosomal Eve could be even better analogy. https://www.academia.edu/5204683/Why_is_Africa_so_linguistically_undiverse_Exploring_substrates_and_isolates. Horses are not much in evidence in West Africa, on the whole. Even the mummy DNA from 4 years ago turns out be less satisfying than its hype, since it boils down to 3 samples, all from Abusir across several centuries, though their relative consistency is interesting. (Corpus of the Russian Language) In fact, in some instances, like derived nominals or the high-register Latinate lexicon of English, children will master derivational processes only well into school age. The opposite idea, that Semitic originated geographically close to the other AfAs language families (so, in Africa), has been proposed a few times but not been widely accepted. Yoruba eja (where the e, though now invariant, is the relic of an old class prefix) is another that looks like it might be related. Someone else could comment on this more knowledgeably, but I dont like this argument., I dont like it too, but popularity of the profession indeed depends on (1) its prestige (2) other opportunities (3) finding people who just want to do it (who too feel better when there is a thriving community of enthusiasts). Its not going to spread beyond the nearest two hydroelectric dams the two at the Iron Gate are why beluga no longer occur upstream of there. Ive just discovered that Roger Blenchs Archaeology, Language and African Past, that drasvi kindly pointed to above, contains the following words from Samuel Johnson himself, no less: There is no tracing the connection of ancient nations but by language; and therefore I am always sorry when any language is lost, because languages are the pedigree of nations. It just wont be necessarily amenable to quoting six items and declaring QED, the way good grammatical evidence might be. a fish, especially when used as food, 2. a side dish, specifically referring to fish . Unless the study of North African genetics has missed an incursion, it seems like you have to either believe the Berber group of Afroasiatic developed in situ starting at the last glacial maximum, independently of the other branches of Afroasiatic, which were all also developing for 18,000 years, on the basis of a proto-Afroasiatic which was already present in some or all of these places; or that Berbers origin is in a prestige trade language that spread, then later fissured. That doesnt make sense in your case though. I looked for reconstructions of the protolanguage, that kind of thing. Andras Rajkis Etymological Dictionary of Arabic (Also, thanks DM for an informative discussion that makes me aware of some gaps in my knowledge of phylogenetics; any good recent introductions youd recommend?). The paper itself goes on to compare his Proto-Potou-Akanic with Proto-Bantu, and he does so quite sensibly on the whole. Which reminds me: why Cono Sur? Just looking at some relevant work. You can always map that onto a tree later. Why go riskily digging your biomass from the deep ocean if it comes to the coasts by itself already? (Even the most lexically-divergent pair of Oti-Volta languages* show comfortably more than 50% of clearcut matches on the Swadesh 100 list, the noun class systems are very obviously of a common origin, and the outlines, at least of the phonology of the protolanguage are fairly clear, though much remains to be done. * But there arent. >Since you dont say what your source concludes, Ill just jump in to note that the ur- in aurochs is hardly ur- original. I havent read any introductions myself, other than the manual of a program from 2001; most of my knowledge in this field comes from two courses and the primary literature Its likely that all of the recent introductions are good, though. Most people doing comparative work on African languages seem to have graduated (in several senses) from working on a thesis on some individual African language, broadening their scope once established as an academic. Yes, its the only language, unless you count Samaritan Hebrew as a different language, but thats a very long shot. dictionary I cited does not itself contain citations. a fish 2. the sign of the zodiac Pisces 3. name of a teacher of yoga, Merriam-Webster was very systematic about finding and eliminating WNIs. It continues to surprise me that Blench is so reluctant to see this. We conclude that African taurines received as much as 26% (estimated as 0.263 in the network, p-value<2.2e-308) of their ancestry from admixture with wild African auroch, with the rest being Fertile Crescent domesticate in origin.". Whorf [1945] records such covert categories for English nouns: for example, she referring to boats of a requisite importance or size. So perhaps its not so semantically odd after all. Naked Translations Biol. Im not sure how this comports with Philip Jose Farmers important work, Hadon of Ancient Opar, but he drew a river exactly where the proto-Berbers needed one. In short, do science. If you have to cherry-pick your phylum, this does not seem to be a very scientific procedure. @Hans, Has anyone ever proposed that another known branch of IE split before Anatolian? SD 5: 699 (1347, gammal afskr.). Language production typically starts out with utterances, as behavioral elements which provide the initial basis for expressing relations between semantic content and phonetic form. And the separate question of whether these forms go with the vos or t pronoun. In terms of fish knowledge in the estuaries of ancient Mesopotamia, Im not aware of any systematic differences in names of freshwater versus saltwater fish. Farefare and Dagaare have the same etymon as Moor, though the three languages dont seem to constitute a branch of WOV together; its difficult to be sure with so many criss-crossing isoglosses. and from each other that it is a real possibility that these are relic Semitic languages, remaining in Ethiopia after the migration of the main core of Semites up the Nile River. The classification of Kujarg within Afroasiatic is not agreed upon. (b) only two of these literal dozens of classes have affixes which look plausibly related to anything in Gur beyond sheer chance: the highly semantically-marked human and liquid classes. Even as Bantu peoples arrived in new areas, their languages rapidly diversified. American Heritage Dictionary Then theres an interesting idea I once saw somewhere on academia.edu, that Proto-Semitic was spoken in the Rub al-Khali before it dried out, and East Semitic spread north while West Semitic spread in a semicircle along the coast of Arabia . electronic Dictionary of the Irish Language My next idea was professionalization (a source of jargon). Y Geiriadur Mawr misleadingly glosses this math o bisgodyn mawr syn llamu or dr, mr-fochyn a kind of big fish [sic] which leaps out of the water, sea-pig, but doesnt actually define mr-fochyn sea-pig anywhere. Or maybe I thought about Omotic, It would probably give rise to all kind of unfortunate implications, to begin with, In Russian it is everything that fire adds to the air that is not smoke (but possibly including smoke). The Zagros and beyond seem to have been home to several language families of unknown genealogy. (I may be unfair. Vendemos una gran variedad de pescados We sell many kinds of fish (the implication is that they are dead, hence sold as a food) versus Vendemos una gran variedad de peces We sell many kinds of [live] fish (for aquariums, fishbowls, and the like). Caveat the study is focused on Kenyan and Tanzanian populations, rather than Chadic-speakers. I was also interested that Rilly mentioned doing continuing fieldwork on two Nubian languagesgenerating some of that influx of new data. Chinese Character Dictionary Because why not. Here, we generated 137 high-coverage physically phased genome sequences from eight Middle Eastern populations using linked-read sequencing. Thats a delightful folk etymology, and Im sure youre not the only one to invent it. Interesting. With the statement you quote there, I am in total agreement. I would propose as a compromise: paradigmatic grammatical evidence is often enough, phoneme for phoneme, the strongest type of evidence for a relationship; while lexical evidence is the most consistently available type. The comment on Pre-Sumerian substratum made my eyebrow go up. Perhaps it is magically compensated for by the maths. Alexander Militarev (2000), based on lexicostatistics, groups Berber with Chadic and both more distantly with Semitic, as against Cushitic and Omotic. The values assigned to the phonetic characters of this earliest Semitic script characters of pictographic form were determined by the initial consonant of the Semitic word for the symbol depicted, rather than by any phonetic value associated with a corresponding Egyptian symbol. 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